I’m the interviewee of the latest edition of Jarrett Fuller’s Scratching the Surface. “Scratching the Surface is a design podcast about the intersection of criticism and practice hosted by Jarrett Fuller. Each week, Jarrett interviews designers, writers, critics, educators and those that operate between these fields about how writing, criticism, and theory informs individual practice and the graphic design profession at large. Previous guests have included Michael Beirut, Jessica Helfand, Michael Rock, Steven Heller, and Alexandra Lange.” Thanks to Jarrett for inviting me to participate and massaging my words into broadcast.